90 comment(s)

1. Misi | Aug 28, 2008 | Reply

   Amazing. What I really want to know is how they did it?

2. Omotaylor | Aug 28, 2008 | Reply

   Is this the same South Africa that recently went on the rampage attacking other Africans for settling on their territory? Surely there must be a reason why Black Americans are welcome but not black Africans. Wonder what it is?

   My prayer is that Africans will one day be able to find the African dream in Africa.

3. Pamela Stitch | Aug 29, 2008 | Reply

   The key word Omotaylor is American….

4. Regina | Feb 10, 2009 | Reply

   I was pleased to see Blacks without Borders. It was astounding to see African Americans living and working in the Mother land. It was difficult to hear how many Africans do not except this as a homecoming for black americans, although it is understandable as I continued to watch. Thank you for keeping us informed and enlightened. My true reason for contacting you though is to take Mr Charles Henderson up on his offer, He is quite my type and would love to contact him. Please provide my email address I would like to hear from him.

5. David | Feb 10, 2009 | Reply

   Great documentary!

6. Osvaldo | Feb 11, 2009 | Reply

   The question asked above on comments was, How was it done? Was there politics involved? What type of Police protection do the residents have? Can anyone have what the people on TV have, what other strings are attached, if any. What was presented on TV was unbelievable, it was a pretty picture.

7. Brother Rob | Feb 13, 2009 | Reply

   I like to know if there is a address so I can help the brother from DC. I would like to help with the little I have. The story about those children with aids and how he is helping really touch me. I’m out of work,and yet I’m not going to let that stop me from trying to help if possible. Please let me know how I can help those children.

8. Yolanda | Feb 13, 2009 | Reply

   I watched the documentary on Showtime today. It was amazing. Over the last several years, I have had this uncontrollable desire to travel to Africa. This documentary was the proof that I needed. Maybe there is a better life for me out there. Africa is like the West was back in the Frontier days. I cannot wait until I can see it for myself. The research starts today.

9. Robert | Feb 13, 2009 | Reply

   I, too, enjoyed the movie. I only caught about the last half but was truly moved. I once visited the Ivory Coast in the late 70’s, 80’s. I had forgotten the power. Where can I get more info in living/working/investing in South Africa?

10. Reverend Mark and Pat McCray | Feb 14, 2009 | Reply

    My husband and I really enjoyed this documentary. It was very enlightening to us. We are planning a trip to South Africa within the next year. We will study and become informed on the culture of our people. We want to know what the churches are like and would like to have information from one of the Christian Ministers there. If possible, please have someone contact us by email. Thank you!

11. BlessedBridget | Feb 14, 2009 | Reply

    Wow, Wow, Wow. Blacks without Borders was totally incredible!! My name is Bridget, a 37 yr. old African American woman. Who was thoroughly inspired by the extremely successful African Americans displayed in this movie. Bravo, Showtime! I think I was most impressed by the very sophisticated, WOMAN OF GOD, Mrs. Brenda Joyce and the debonair Mr. Eugene Jackson. What wonderful depictions of African American Role Models. I would lllloooovvvveeeeee to contact all of the people in this movie but, especially these two if possible. toodles Ms.B

12. Alicia | Feb 15, 2009 | Reply

    Great Documentary!!!

    I intend to visit South Africa, how inspiring and informative!
    Working and investing overseas is more than a growing trend, but becoming a necessity, looking at Dubai and other countries’ growth opportunities/demand. So I do look forward to learning more!

    It’s always great to see how Blacks live in other countries…

    I hope does a documentary and feature film on the life of Miriam Makeba…I adore this woman!

    Again, thanks!

13. RODNEY DIXON/DAVIS | Feb 17, 2009 | Reply

    THIS DOC WAS A BEAUTIFUL EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE NEED TO DO FOR OURSELVES,AS AFRICANS IN AMERICA. IT SHOWS WE CAN DO THIS EVERYWHERE BLACK PEOPLE EXIST.TO THE ESTABISHED ONES ALREADY IN A POSITION,THINK ABOUT RECRUITING SEMI PROFESSIONALS FROM THE U.S.,SUCH AS MYSELF;I’M A LICENCED ELECTRICIAN WILLING TO BE APART OF OUR RISE.

14. Sharon | Feb 20, 2009 | Reply

    I was awestruck with the presentation. I was packing for Mexico and wishing I could change my reservations last Saturday. A friend suggested we go to South Africa last year and I said no, my first trip to the Motherland was going to be to Ghana, I think I´ve changed my mind.

15. Rae | Feb 26, 2009 | Reply

    I was so amazed to see that there was prosperity and opportunity in Africa. You see and so many sterotypes and horrible stories about the things of Africa but, you hardly ever get to see the beauty there. After watching the documentary it really opened my eyes, heart and spirit. I really appreciate you for doing this documentary. Peace be with you!

16. Johnnie "Blue" Gardner | Mar 23, 2009 | Reply

    I was truly amazed this documentary was merely confirmation
    of my beliefs. I’m African not African American though I was born here. Being 67 years old I’m convinced that Afri-
    cans born here are the most asinine people in the world. These people Hate Africa, no other culture nor Ehtnic group
    hates their homeland. My one Real Dream is to visit “My An-
    cestral Home” before I die! Eugene Jackson & Charles Hender-
    son are soul inspiring Brothers and I look forward to meet-
    ing both. I’m an Actor, VoiceOver Specialist and writer. My
    partner “Nathan Ross Freeman” and I are in the process of
    doing a series of stories entitled “The New Legends Series
    African Files & Profiles!” True stories on African Heroes
    and Sheroes that 90% of people Black & White have never heard of!

17. African American | Apr 4, 2009 | Reply

    I saw this, but I was hoping they would continue with a PART II because there was so much more that needed to be discussed.

    Hey Johnnie “Blue” Gardner! I hope you include Thomas Sankara, the President of Burkina Faso and Amilcar Cabral, President of Guinea Bissau, in your show.

18. obie | Apr 21, 2009 | Reply

    The program was very interesting ,but to those whom I talk to about it, give the basic negro responce about africa” I ain’t going to live in africa”. and then proudly announce that they are americans ? I beggining to believe that the majority of black americans, can not add numbers or still believe in what they saw in the tarzan movies. we nlive in a society that people will sit around and complaine about mexicans sending money home (at 13 to our 1 dollar rate) also stating that we have no where to go . well with this documentary “Blacks With out Boarders”. We learn we would have the same advantage with our dollars. and more economic freedom. Two things stood out to me no glass boarders and no man. or you can be the man. and not a figure head.

19. obie | Apr 21, 2009 | Reply

    The program was very interesting ,but to those whom I talk to about it, give the basic negro responce about africa” I ain’t going to live in africa”. and then proudly announce that they are americans ? I beggining to believe that the majority of black americans, can not add numbers or still believe in what they saw in the tarzan movies. we live in a society that people will sit around and complaine about mexicans sending money home (at 13 to our 1 dollar rate) also stating that we have no where to go . well with this documentary “Blacks With out Boarders”. We learn we would have the same advantage with our dollars.(8 to 1) and more economic freedom. Two things stood out to me no glass boarders and no man. or you can be the man. and not a figure head.

20. African American | Apr 21, 2009 | Reply

    Actually, African immigrants to the United States send the most money home to their native countries, more so than Mexicans. Helping Africa is a holistic concept. It will take a “village” as in Everyone including Continental Africans.

21. Dr.. Mtangulizi Sanyika | Jun 9, 2009 | Reply

    Am interested in accessing the DVD, and talking with you re the issue of repatriation. One of my students at dillard U. in New Orleans is going to So. Africa this summer, and this is a main research interest of hers. Please advise on how to get the DVD, and how we might converse.

    Peace and Blessings

    Mtangulizi
    713-376-3364

22. Menzi | Jul 20, 2009 | Reply

    They think they are welcome and spreading lies about having made SA their home, to us they are starngers who are sitting in their chilly corner, they will never be part of our country, NOT NOW NOT EVER, we dobn’t even know what they are doing in our country because they originate from West Africa. No one understands what the purpose of spreading these videos is, whatever it is, its got nothing to do with South Africa and South Africans. If black Americans are looking for solace they are looking in a wrong country because we have nothing to do with them. They hang around and disappear back to the US after a couple of years because they don’t connect with us and we don’t connect with them.

23. Menzi | Jul 20, 2009 | Reply

    African American lifestyle in South Africa – what a load of bullshit, there is no African American lifestyle here and we don’t even connect with African Americans not that we are interested. If African Americans want to Americanise African countries they must go to West Africa where they originate from, we have nothing to do with them, we have no history of slavery and fail to understand why they are so into our business and making movies about our country which we are yet to see.

    We’ve never seen those documentaties and I’m sure they are a misrepresentation that will shock many African Americans who think that this is their motherland when their motherland is Nigeria and other West African countries. I see after being rejected in many countries because of their stinking attitudes African Americans have resorted to spreading false claims about having SA as their home. This is not your home, your homes are in West Africa we know that.

    Blacks without borders is a myth, blacks must first fic their countries before they can talk about not having borders. Our borders are still there and no one is going to tell us to open them.

24. Menzi | Jul 20, 2009 | Reply

    Obie,

    They are Americans, what do you want them to be? If you want them to live in Africa take them to Nigeria. A movie about South Africa is not a representation of life in every African country. We don’t want foreigners here.

25. Menzi | Jul 20, 2009 | Reply

    Lot of hypocrites…! Your home is in Central and West Africa.

26. Menzi | Jul 20, 2009 | Reply

    Johnnie “Blue” Gardner | Mar 23, 2009 | Reply
    “I’m African not African American though I was born here. Being 67 years old I’m convinced that Afri-
    cans born here are the most asinine people in the world. These people Hate Africa”

    Those hypocrites can hate Africa but stay away from South Africa, thank God we have nothing to do with African Americans, we have no connection with them, we have no history of slavery. They are not going to impose their lifestyle and baseless culture on us, why don’t they go to West Africa?. These individuals are not doing justice to those they are presenting their movies to, who get a shock when they get here because we don’t have time and space for African Americans, to us their are no different from other Americans and tourists.

    African Anericans are living their lives in their tiny little cold corner, we don’t have time and space for them.

27. African American | Jul 20, 2009 | Reply

    Menzi,

    As a native born African who now lives in the United States, I have seen misunderstandings on both sides of the Continent. It’s unfortunate that you have met elitist disrespectful African Americans, but I can assure they are many well meaning “conscious” ones. I along with many others, Native African born and American born, consider myself to be a Pan Africanist. Africa is our home whether you like it or not.

    If you had such a problem with this documentary, why don’t you tell the producers to next time feature a “conscious” African American who knew the history indepth and was part of the solution not the problem.

28. Menzi | Jul 21, 2009 | Reply

    To: African American

    You are wrong if you think the whole of Africa is your home, we are not going to have African American reduce this continent to a country and spit on our diversity and identity. South Africa is one of the countries that were not affected by slavery, meaning those countries have nothing to do with and owe you nothing. I fail to understand why you’d be so into a country that has no connection with you. You know where you came from, why come here, why are you on our case?, LEAVE US ALONE. The year was 1998 when African Americans were told to leave South Africans alone. Your problem is not ours, you are in search of identity and are deliberately searching in all the wrong places with the hope that we’d drop everything and accomodate you, we’re not going to do that.

    Elitist or not, I have no business with African Americans, people who think the whole of Africa owes them something and that they can come here and impose themselves on any country and make whatever claim they want to make. One thing certain, if you come here with your attitude you’ll leave SA in tears like many did in the past, your skin colour doesn’t make our country your home, you’re not going to spit on our history by tainting it with slavery which did not affect us. All of you claim to mean good, we are no fools, if you have good intentions take those to Central and West Africa, there are countries that need your good intentions, we don’t.

    South Africa is a country with people living in it, don’t talk about our country as if theres no one living here, many of us object to having descendants of West Africans imposing themselves on us. We have too many problems to entertain your issues of identity, you are not going to find identity here, we have nothing that connects us to you. You will continue to be rejected if you impose yourselves on countries that have nothing to do with you. We don’t even know West Africans and have no connection with them, why must we waste time trying to know you?

    Before you tell me about politics and drop names like many African Americans always do, don’t even go there, as that will not make any difference.

    You are free to come as tourists, don’t come here with the mindset that informs you that this is your home, to us you are no different from tourists from other parts of the world. In fact, your expectations that black South Africans would embrace you as Africans coming back from slavery and roll out red carpet makes you stand out as the worst tourists. After all South Africans know very little or nothing about slavery, we don’t know your history and how you got to be in America. My advice to you is that you direct your expectattions to the service providers you deal with and demand good service which you pay for, and not to black South Africans on the basis of blackness. When I visited East Africa I didn’t expect those people to drop everything and embrace me, why should AAs expect to be treated differently? Maybe you have good reasons to expect West Africans to give you special attention, but not us, you have nothing on us.

29. Menzi | Jul 21, 2009 | Reply

    African Americans,

    I don’t know what you mean by native African born in America and have no problem with the documentary because I’m not the one being misled by some producers who have their own agenda which has nothing to do with South Africans. I’m not the one who gets a shock when he gets here and leave with a huge lump in my throat.

30. African American | Jul 21, 2009 | Reply

    Menzi,

    You sound uneducated. I was born in Africa. (See, that’s what you get when you are so close minded and “mad at the world”. You sound bitter. Please get over yourself. If someone wants to travel and fall in love with a foreign country, how in the world is it affecting your life?

31. Sharon | Jul 21, 2009 | Reply

    Menzi,

    Do you apply this same ideology to Whites who go there or are you just angry with people who look like you?

32. Menzi | Jul 22, 2009 | Reply

    Sharon,

    I apply the same ideology to everyone who comes here claiming this is their home when it is not, and to everyone who comes here thinking their skin colour will do them favours, I apply the same ideology to people who come here thinking we owe them something when we owe them none, I apply the same ideology to people who think that every African country was affected by slavery and therefore every African owes him something, I apply the same ideology to people who come here to abuse our people on the basis of being superior because he is carrying a dollar or a euro, I apply the same ideology to people who think they can come here and teach us a lesson or two when we can teach him a lot and he can’t teach us anything. I apply the same ideology to people who think our country is a place for failures, I apply the same ideology to people who think they can take their hate, resentment and anger about slavery on any African, lastly, I apply the same ideology on rude and arrogant people.

    NB: I’m not the only one, many saw through you a long time ago, others know you from the years they spent in the US and want nothing to do with you.

    The bottom line is that we owe you nothing, this is not your home, this is OUR home, to us you are no different from other tourists, don’t come here expecting special attention because of your skin colour. Africa is not a country, its a diverse continent with 53 very different countries each with its own identity, you are not going to to come here and change that. Take your anger and resentment about slavery to West Africa, we have enough problem of our own. You cannot force us to accept you and to put up with your issued emanating from unfinished business about slavery and reparations. We don’t owe you any reparations for slavery our forefathers did not sell slaves, they fought hard to fend off any potential for slavery, you are not going to taint our history with slavery.

33. Menzi | Jul 22, 2009 | Reply

    African American wannabe,

    If I’m uneducated I’m uneducated in my country, I’m uneducated but am making a positive contribution in my country unlike you self imposed slave walking around with a textbook in his head which he cannot apply to develop his country. Whats the point of being educated if and when you cannot use that education to develop your country? Development is not what you have, it is what you do with what you have, we have millions of uneducated South Africans who are making a contribution in their country and paying taxes, unlike educated self imposed slaves like you who have chosen to displace themselves.

    I don’t imagine myself sneering at my country from foreign countries, if you were proud of who you are you wouldn’t call yourself African American. African emigrants in the US calling themselves African Americans, haha, sometimes I understand why African Americans have very little to do with you even though you are their distant relatives.

    Don’t ask me questions I owe you nothing GO BACK TO YOUR AFRICAN HELLHOLE AND BUILD IT, African American wannabe. Or are you waiting for Chinese to develop it to come back and live comfortably, typical housecat relishing comfort created by others. Chinese are not going to develop any African country, why should they?

    How the world affects SA is none of your business, you should be concerned about how it affects your inhabitable hellhole you have turned your back on, I have not turned my back on my country and have no intention of doing so, the dollar is not important than my country and my being here.

    You are so ashamed of yourself you are not disclosing your country of origin, disclose it I’ll tell you if you were friends of the apartheid government or not, and received benefits for covertly or overtly supporting apartheid, come in disclose your country, many Africans on these blogs spew crap from the US and EU and wet their pants when they are asked to tell where they come from, self imposed slaves.

34. Rob | Aug 11, 2009 | Reply

    Menzi,

    The hoax is up. We now you are a whitey working hard to prevent AA’s from connecting with our brothas and sistas.

    Give up. We will continue to come to SA because we are loved and WELCOMED. How do I know? Because I live in SA. Nice try white boy.

35. Menzi | Aug 12, 2009 | Reply

    Rob,

    Good boy, you live in SA, how does the freedom our people died for taste? I’m sure you have your tail safely tucked between your legs and behaving yourself. There is no room for the kind of arrogance you are known for. You are flocking into our country for no good reason, hit hard by the global economic crisis and you expect us to say thank you. THIS IS NOT THE LAND OF IMMIGRANTS.

    You ran away from a white man, the same people who once claimed to have liberated us, are running away from a white man, how can one liberate others when you can’t liberate yourselves…!? What is this 40 years of “freedom” all about if you are still going to run away. The truth is that you failed yourselves in the US and are now coming here. Keep in mind that we know that some of you are CIA spies who keep your handlers informed about what is going on in our country.

    THERES A REASON WE WERE NOT AFFECTED BY SLAVERY.

    You are very wrong about my race, not that I owe you an explanation – I am a boon, a bootyscratcher, a mudhut dweller, do those names ring a bell? Keep in mind that this is not another Liberia, this is not a “no man’s land” and free for all, this is our country, South Africa is not a reparation for slavery, OK…!? I know your hidden agenda involves getting Benin as your country, this is not Benin, Benin is in West Africa.

    Our forefathers fought hard to fend off potential slave traders and were too busy tending to their Nguni cattle and their land to co-operate with enslavers, that is why the British found themselves having to bring Indian and Malaysian slaves here. WE HAVE NEVER BEEN ENSLAVED AND NEVER SOLD ANYBODY TO SLAVERY, I don’t understand the obssession with our country, and strangers calling it their home. For the first time in your lives you are going to learn to behave yourselves and respect others. We don’t care how wealthy you think you are, nobody needs your money here. We don’t need to be millionaires to live comfortably.

    Racial inferiority is the reason African Americans are quick to jump into race and the reason you are breeding yourselves out by breeding with any woman who is not black, SELF HATERS disgust me. I don’t know what you are doing here because you don’t even like Africa and Africans, your hatred for your own dark skin proves just that. You worship white / light skin, that is why whites are always in your heads.

    Moving to a foreign country to enjoy easy life and NOT being followed by the police and stopped for being black, what kind of nonsense is that, I can’t emigrate for that. Failures who have nothing much to show for the 40 years of “freedom”. You are overcrowding US jails, your people are not educated, they need charity but some of you are here in the name of doing charity work, WE DON’T NEED CHARITY HERE, we know some of those are planted by the CIA. Katrina exposed you for what you are, your crack babies are taken care of by white Americans while you are galavanting around the world in search of easy life, your children are fatherless, young African Americans are following their parents to jail if they don’t die young, they are drug dealers and drug addicts, your communities are drug infested and all you can do is to QUIT.

    Hanging around SA is not going to change any of that, we are grappling with our own problems if you are here you’ll know that. I don’t like housecats and quitters, people who wait for others to create a comfortable situation for them to walk in and relish that. West Africa needs you, we don’t. We know you are not investors, if you are, you are NOT the kind of investors we need and you don’t have the skills we don’t have. You were shocked to find educated South Africans, you thought we were all down the trenches feeling sorry for ourselves. The reason for that is that many people don’t know us because we are not all over the show and know how to behave ourselves in foreign countries.

    We also know that you all want us to fail, you have been waiting for a civil war which you are not going to get. Some of you are wondering whats the story with the formation of COPE without any conflict. If you are waiting for civil war in SA, you are going to wait a long time, some have been waiting for the past 15 years.

36. Menzi | Aug 12, 2009 | Reply

    Rob,

    You got his wrong, you are free to come and visit like any other tourist, we receive tourists everyday, you’ll be one of many. Just don’t expect that your skin colour will mean something to us, 38 million South Africans have melanin why must your be anything special? And don’t expect royal treatment because we owe you nothing, and please take your arrogance and bitterness about everything to West Africa where you originate from.

    Tourists who behave themselves are loved that is why they keep coming back. What we are not going to tolerate are foreigners who are flocking into our country, hit hard by the current economic crisis. Our resources are already under pressure and overstretched. Foreclosures and job losses are not going to drive you here. This is not the and of immigrants.

37. Menzi | Aug 12, 2009 | Reply

    You got his wrong = You got THIS wrong
    ——————

    You people seem to think that your skin colour is an obligation to have us open our doors and allow you to make our country your home. There are no blood relations between us, your relatives are in West Africa, you must RESPECT our diversity and what makes each one of us, your skin colour means very little to us because you are still a foreigner and not one of my people.

    Don’t come here and tell us about Africa being a country, this is a diverse continent with 53 countries, more that 500 tribes, more than a thousand clans each with its cultures. Don’t impose your American ways on us, you lost your identity and now you want us to drop ours and the essence of what we are to accomodate you, that is arrogance, how can we be expected to drop what we are to accomodate descendants of slaves who should be searching for their roots instead. The worst part you take your rubbish to people who have NOTHING to do with you, South Africans and others.

    Africa is NOT a country, she is a continent. Calling it a country displays total disregard for us and our diverse cultures. LEARN SOME MANNERS AND FOR ONCE RESPECT AFRICANS (IN AFRICA) THAT IS NOT NEGOTIABLE, if you cannot, GET OUT OF OUR COUNTRY and follow in the footsteps of the disgusting African Americans who came here in the 90s thinking we’ll hand our country over to them on a silver platter. Respect Africans particularly those who have nothing to do with the enslavement of your forefathers. Glad we owe you nothing, that is such a relief.

38. Menzi | Aug 12, 2009 | Reply

    Blacks without borders will happen outside of SA, we are not giving up our sovereignty to accomodate the diaspora we have nothing to do with.

39. Menzi | Aug 12, 2009 | Reply

    Just like these second and third class Europeans, you come to SA to live the celebrity lives you can only dream of in your country and you call that an American Dream, there is no American Dream in South Africa, this is not America, this is our country, and not a place for easy life. I’m one of many who have a serious problem with foreigners pouring into our country and buying property just like that, some of these people don’t even live here, this has been going on for too long, we MUST stop it. COSATU must do something about this. This is not an exotic island. We have serious issues on our plates and foreigners on the other side are inviting each other to come here and buy property just like that, THIS HAS TO STOP. We don’t need people who have nothing to offer here, we don’t need employees.

40. johnson | Aug 12, 2009 | Reply

    Menzi, you do not sound like most South Africans, and I know plenty. Going by your rants, it’s becoming to smell like you’re suffering from xenophobia.

    By the way, reading through your comments you sound awfully familiar to ‘Zew’ another disturbed commentator I ran into somewhere. Has Zew morphed into Menzi?

41. To Johnson - Menzi and Zew is the same person | Aug 12, 2009 | Reply

    Johnson the Nigerian is back, are you sure you are not a scammer? Whats your issue with South Africa, why don’t you go and promote Nigeria and invite your African American relatives to Nigeria? I don’t sound like a South African and you’ve met plenty, how many is plenty because I’ve always lived with South Africans and in fact don’t need to prove anything to a bloody Nigerian or anyone for that matter. Who do you think you are to doubt my nationality in my country when you and your people have to work asses to get papers to stay here. Cheap low lives…! I don’t know plenty Nigerians because I don’t want to be found guilty of crime, by association.

    How is my being xenophobic any of your business, I’m not xenophobic in Nigeria and am not ranting about Nigeria, so why should you be bothered. You Nigerians are the last people to talk about xenophobia. In the 80s you kicked more than 3 million foreigners out of your country, that is where “Ghana Must Go” comes from.

    Don’t tell me about being xenophobic, unlike you I’m not a self imposed slave, I’m sure you are blogging from the comfort of a foreign country, most probably SA, relishing the freedom others fought for. You plundered your country and now are waiting for China to come in and rebuild it, why is that if you are courageous, educated (walking textbooks) and hardworking, hardworking in crime…, huh.

    Why don’t you ask yourself why are your African American relatives steering away from Nigeria, one of the two countries that sold most slaves and saw slave trade as a business. To this day you Nigerian subhumans are heavily involved in slave trade, that is, human trafficking. I told you before don’t use our country to reach out to your African American relatives, we have nothing to do with both of you. You, not us, are their family, since you displaced them, you should be the ones dealing with their return to Africa, and not us.

    Your Nigerian brothers are not only selling drugs for white South Africans, they sell sex to both white men and women, whites talk, they don’t give a damn about Nigerian and Congolese sex slaves, deal with that before we deal with them. No South African is out committing crime in Nigeria, what makes Nigerians think this is a place where they can ply their trade. This is the beginning of the end for Nigerian criminals in SA. You are preoccupied and obssesssed with SA, go back home and be part of rebuilding the country you destroyed to demonstrate your strength. We, “weak” South Africans, did not destroy ours.

42. Alicia | Aug 12, 2009 | Reply

    Wow…what a heated discussion!!!

    It’s amazing how we all take ownership for what doesn’t belong to any of us! If a country’s laws permit foreigners to take residence and citizenship, then be it.

    I seriously doubt that the dreads of our society will be transplanting in South Africa. How many could actually afford the plane ticket alone? Now those seeking employment opportunities have the right, as we’ve opened our doors to South Africans and the whole world.

    Our slavery history, whether from the South or West of the continent of Africa is of no importance. Some Black Americans choose to embrace blacks from all over the world as Latin nations demonstrate their unity. I easily relate to people of color of all ethnic groups. Self-hatred doesn’t belong to black people alone, Latin and Asian people also suffer from euro-standards of beauty. White people self-loathe, self-multilate, suffer from not being thin enough, beautiful enough with plastic surgery addictions and other behavioral disorders, consume the majority of illicit drugs in America, along with alarming numbers of whites with prescription drug addictions, soccer moms, meth and heroin addictions and the list goes on, from corporate crime, stealing pensions, funding an unholy war for profit at the expense of brave men and women believing they’re protecting our rights, releasing unsafe drugs, fully knowing so many people will die, priets molesting innocent children and until very recently getting away with it, all the murder for hire schemes for insurance money. Child molestation happens in our white picket fence two parent homes, the violence to women, white and black is unacceptable, they’re all kinds of broken homes! All groups of people have their issues, black people aren’t the only group of people who don’t blend in, so our ills are spotlighted. What we all suffer from is a lack of “self-worth.” Otherwise, the comments wouldn’t be so mean-spirited. Racial myths exist everywhere as white or class supremacy.

    People are free to live where they choose and get ready because we’re coming, the way the British came, The Dutch, The Germans, The French, so will the Black Americans!!!

43. Tony | Aug 12, 2009 | Reply

    Menzi (aka Zew) is certainly disturbed by the content of this post, and it’s strange why that’s so…and even bringing Nigeria and Nigerians into the topic. What’s the connection? There’s none!!!

44. Omotaylor | Aug 13, 2009 | Reply

    Maybe there is reason in madness, and if this be so, there will also be madness in reason. The rants and rave are not offensive or disturbing to me, just interesting for there are deep seated issues being raised by M&Z and if only for him/her to take it out of their system, allow and be your brother’s keeper. Keep it coming Menzie, it is called SOUL CLEANSING. Better than bottling it all up and shooting innocent people dead.

    Peace to all.

45. Menzi / Zew | Aug 19, 2009 | Reply

    Tony

    Of course I am distubed by you Nigerians passing your devilish selves on as South Africans, we don’t NEED Nigerians to represent or speak for us on any subject. I am one of many who hate the presence of Nigerians in our my country, don’t make the mistake of thinking the problem is beyond our control. You have your cesspool to sort out get your Nigerian noses off our issues, or have you given up on Nigeria? Do you know what to do to get Nigeria out of the quagmire, if so, why are you in SA and not in Nigeria? What the hell are you doing here, SA is not a bridge between you and your African American relatives. We have nothing to do with slavery because we are not weakminded, unlike Nigerians who had a big problem when slavery was abolished and who still continue to this day to enslave their people.

    In the 20th and 21st centuries slavery is called human trafficking and Nigeria is heavily involved in that. Each year thousands of Nigerian women, unsuspecting youth and children are trafficked by other Nigerians to servitude and sex slavery in the US, EU and SA. Sex slavery is your thing, in SA (and in other countries I suppose) Nigerian men are sex slaves to both white men and women, whites talk because they think nothing of you, no one should. We have to deal with your case as a matter of urgency. This government should not be too bogged down on 2010, they must think about the next 24 hours. Go and sort out your issues with your African American brothers and sister far away from us, our country is not a reparation for slavery. You feel good because your relatives are in SA, an African country. The truth is that SA is not your typical African country, in fact its a misrepresentation of Africa. Someone who has never been to other African countries i.e. Nigeria can’t look at SA and think to himself “Oh this is Africa”. One country cannot be used as a reflection of the rest of the continent.

    Why don’t you post videos about African Americans in Nigeria (if there are any) and invite more to come and settle in your country. A friend of mine had to travel to Nigeria on his employer’s business, came back saying NEVER EVER AGAIN will he set foot in that country. I don’t blame him, Nigerians themselves find their cesspool inhabitable and have chosen to displace themselves. You are one of the nations on this continent that have been waiting for civil war in South Africa because destruction is your thing and must have thought we are like you. Swallow that lump we are not giving you civil war and are moving on without destructive nations like you. Unlike you, Nigerians, we don’t see strength in destruction. I don’t understand what you people are doing in our country given the fact that you don’t even like black South Africans, reason for that is jealous, you wish Nigeria could be like SA, eat the cheap ass for dinner you are not having our country. NOT THAT I / WE WANT YOU to like us, we have nothing to do with you and you can see that.

    Theres a reason why we were not affected by slavery, its not as if enslavers didn’t wish they could enslave our forefathers. SA WILL NEVER be anything like Nigeria, get that through your flat fist sized cranials. Getting education to displace yourselves and living lives of squatters and selling your bodies to the opposite sex to settle in the countries you’ve settled in, HOW CHEAP, HOW LOW…! Whats the point of all that education if you are not going to use it to get your counrtry out of the mess shes in. Can’t even liberate yourselves from black oppressors, besides plundering the country what have you been doing in the past 49 years of so called independence.? You worship your colonisers so much living in Britain is a big deal to you and the US dollar in your hands means the world, the reason for all that is that you are big mouthed weakminded dunderheads who believe slave trade was a lucrative “business”. No South African is preoccupied with Nigeria or passing himself on as a Nigerian, step aside and stop lying about being South Africans and shut up about issues, we don’t have locked tongues and don’t speak with a satanic accent.

46. pammy | Aug 19, 2009 | Reply

    lol…Oh what a joke!!!!

47. Menzi | Aug 19, 2009 | Reply

    Omotaylor

    I have no need to do any soul cleansing because I have no filth in my soul and am not the one running away from a white man in the US to settle in a foreign country after 40 years of what I thought was freedom. The people who have issues are African Americans and those who sold slaves.

    We are dealing with our issues the way WE see fit, deal with yours far away from us, West Africa is calling. The people who have wasted +40 years seeking on the African continent and not finding are African Americans, the dirt you have bottled in your souls is not only clear to me and many other South Africans who know you a lot better, it is known to other Americans and the immigrants in your country, it is clear to South Americans who have had an encounter with you, to Africans, to Europeans, to Asians, to South East Asians.

    The issues you’ve bottled is the reason you have not integrated in the US after so many years and instead engaged in self-sabotage and self destructive behaviour. No country should be held hostage by a minority, you are a minority in the US, I fail to understand your refusal to integrate and be part of that society.

    The best way of addressing the issues is to deal with those who stripped you of your identity and sold your forefathers as commodities (and who are now laughing about it). The International Court of Justice is open for business, approach them for reparations for slavery and bury the hope that we’ll share our country with you, we have no blood relations with you, you know you are Nigerians, Ghanaians, Congolese, Gambians, Senegalese, Burundians, etc. Who wants African Americans after what you did to Liberians. African Americans oppressed Liberians and in the end were part of that civil war. Charles Taylor is half African American, you’ve settled on OmoTaylor for a screen name, any relations to the cannibal?

    Nigerians saw slave trade as a lucrative business and are laughing about it, they say they sold social misfits, its hard to believe a country can have so many social misfits but if you think about it Nigeria can, Nigerians are the scums of the continent and the world’s social misfits. The best way of dealing with their arrogance is to nail their asses (and those of other Africans who made slavery possible) at the International Court.

    I understand some AAs have approached the courts for reparations but are not getting (enough) support from those who are driven by sentiments and who are negative enough to think nothing will come out of that process. Sentiments is not my thing I’m rallying behind those AAs. They’ll be making a big mistake if they focus on the US and leave out the West and Central African countries that traded in slavery. It all boils down to demand and supply, it makes no sense nailing the market / demand and not suppliers…!?. Or is it a case of believing that blacks cannot be oppressors, blacks have proven to be the worst oppressors, to see the truth of that look no further than Nigeria and other Africans who have not only plundered their countries but displaced vulnerable people (who should be in their countries fighting with all their might to reclaim their countries from unscrupulous politicians). Also, look no further than African Americans who oppressed Liberians. The economic situation of those countries is the problem of the slavery claimants, THEY MUST PAY reparations, PERIOD. They have mines, they have oil, they have agricultural land, they have gas, they can afford to pay, they must pay.

    Someone should send a strong message to African countries that co-operated with Arabs and the British, Nigeria would do anything the British say. Right now they have been ordered to identify a piece of land on which the British will build a prison to house Nigerian criminals who are overcrowding the British prisons (its cheaper for the British to build that prison that to keep Nigerians in theirs, theres too many of them). African Americans – those are your relatives, hahaha. These are CHILDREN OF SATAN who speak with a very distinct accent for ease of identification, scums of the continent and the world’s social misfits. Countries that have death penalty must execute Nigerians, they are a waste of space. China is doing just that.

    The reason Nigerians and Congolese are still involved in slave trade in the form of human trafficking is that their asses are yet to be nailed, they’ve never been made to pay for the atrocities they have committed, slave trade was the biggest atrocity in the history of mankind. The way their government smashed the Al Qaeda sect that was taking root in that country tells me they act if and when they want to.

    Lastly, theres no innocense in being in a foreign country illegally. IL-legal immigration means you have broken that country’s immigration laws and deserve to be dealt with in the hrashest of ways if you don’t voluntarily go back where you dragged your ass from. If the government fails to act the people must act, theres no other way, our country is not the land of immigrants, we are not going to be made to feel guilty for not destroying SA and make her look like other Sub-Sahara African countries. We could have destroyed our country, we had the means, we could have done it both from inside and outside, WE CHOSE NOT TO. Our warrior forefathers who fought with all their might to ward off enslavers would have turned in their graves if we’d done that and displace their descendants, when evidence was there for all to see that such destruction does not pay the dividends.

48. Menzi | Aug 19, 2009 | Reply

    Alicia

    If you are going to do what the British and the Afrikaaners did (my focus is SA and not other countries), you have to prepare yourselves for a very long war because our country was not handed to them on a silver platter, they fought for it and we fought to have it back.

    “It’s amazing how we all take ownership for what doesn’t belong to any of us! If a country’s laws permit foreigners to take residence and citizenship, then be it.

    Menzi – Who does it belong to? What is this suppose to mean, this is OUR country and it belongs to us, if you’ve never heard that before you are hearing it now. If you think it belongs to God, your God is not my God. THIS IS NOT THE LAND OF IMMIGRANTS and slaves. We are not going to make up for what you were stripped of in West Africa.

    “I seriously doubt that the dreads of our society will be transplanting in South Africa. How many could actually afford the plane ticket alone? Now those seeking employment opportunities have the right, as we’ve opened our doors to South Africans and the whole world.”

    Menzi – Those South Africans were there for a reason and they came back as soon as apartheid came crashing down, they were not there to enjoy a dream they couldn’t live in their own country, NONE OF YOU ARE POLITICAL EXILES, on the contrary, some are spies who informed their handlers that SA politicians and elite will soon be wiped out by AIDS, were you hoping that when that time comes you’ll be on stand-by to take over, because your hidden agenda is to have a country in Africa which you can have it all to yourselves. AIDS is wiping out your communities as we speak, did you really think you were immune to a virus that started in the US and that has been killing Americans since the 70s to this day?. Don’t even talk about apartheid and South Africans in your country, USA is about the only reason the apartheid government managed to stand on two feet for so long, the US was fully behind apartheid, your government manipulated it into getting involved in civil wars in Mozambique, Angola and destabilize the region. US took cold war to the African soil and the apartheid government was their strongest ally on the continent.
    Not so long ago we had a long newspaper article by one of the political exiles informing us that the JFK administration was involved in the arrest of Mandela and his team and you dare tell me about your country opening its doors to South Africans…!?. We are not going to have our country used as a place of refuge by descendants of West African slaves who want to live the kind of life they cannot live in the US, this is not a place for failures and those who have been hit by the global economic crisis. Don’t equate yourselves to South African exiles, we’ve watched you people and illegal immigrants from the continent do just that and making false claims about having liberated us, how could you manage that when you can’t liberate yourselves and when the Western Bloc countries including your government supported apartheid, how could those Africans including Nigerians manage that when they can’t liberate themselves from black oppressors. YOU ARE NOT POLITICAL EXILES but opportunists who want to ride on the successes of the collective. If we open our doors to you we have to do it with all Americans and everybody around the globe who supported South Africans, some did and sacrificed more than you who couldn’t do much even if you wanted to because apartheid US was for apartheid SA.

    “Our slavery history, whether from the South or West of the continent of Africa is of no importance.”
    It is when you spit on the continent as if everybody has something to do with you, it is when you search for a place to call home and settle in countries that have nothing to do with you and spit on those people. We have no history of slavery and don’t know you.

    “Some Black Americans choose to embrace blacks from all over the world as Latin nations demonstrate their unity.”

    Menzi – That is easier said than done, what we saw was the
    opposite, we see black Americans spitting on the continent, I’ll talk about South Africa because there are South Africans who have extremely bad experiences with you both in the US and here at home. I don’t know what makes you think we have to take your crap. I know South Africans who have spent time in your country and who don’t even talk about you (without being probed) because you are not worth their time. They only want to talk about the good times they had in the US. People have been taking notes, you didn’t know that you’ll want to come to Africa they way you do today. Come we are waiting, the word has to go out…!

    “I easily relate to people of color of all ethnic groups.”
    Menzi – Good for you, then you shouldn’t have a problem living in the US.

    “Self-hatred doesn’t belong to black people alone, Latin and Asian people also suffer from euro-standards of beauty. White people self-loathe, self-multilate,”

    Menzi – This is your problem and the people who hate themselves. I guess you say its right. Don’t generalize about black people, African Americans are the biggest self haters in the global black community.

    “What we all suffer from is a lack of “self-worth.”
    Otherwise, the comments wouldn’t be so mean-spirited. Racial myths exist everywhere as white or class supremacy. “

    Menzi – I don’t suffer from lack of self worth., I know what I’m worth and have been through the process of self discovery, I don’t identity with you, I’ve never hated my skin, I have no issues regarding my history, your lack of self worth might be rooted in being reduced to non persons and sold as commodities. That is why you will never deal with it for as long as you steer away from West Africa and not confronting West Africans.

    “People are free to live where they choose and get ready because we’re coming, the way the British came, The Dutch, The Germans, The French, so will the Black Americans!!!”

    Menzi – This tells me you people think you have what it takes to colonise Africa, hahaha. You have no right to live in South Africa, WE have a right to deny you papers and/or drive you out. If the government allows you to stay here its easy to target you and drive you out, this is not Liberia 2, we owe you nothing, you are not going to live in caves, even if you do we’ll get you out of those and force you out the way we’ve done with many who came before you and with whites. There are nine ways of killing a cat, if you want confrontation you are going to get it. You are not a problem to other Americans, what makes you think you are going to be one to us? America has served you right, your skulls are way too thick to be dealt with in a humane way.

49. Menzi | Aug 19, 2009 | Reply

    African Americans failed to leap at opportunities the US offered them, because of that they have nothing to offer, they don’t have what SA needs, I know what needs to be done for this country to move forward, I know what we need, and I know this government’s policies and objectives. If there are African Americans who do have those skills, then those are comfortable in the US and do not want to bring their skills here, nothing wrong with that. Successful African Americans are living the American Dream in the USA and not in some third world African countries.

    CHARITY BEGINS AT HOME… African Americans who are hiding behind charity must take that to New Orleans and Mississipi, your people need charity, so are your countries of origin.

50. Menzi | Aug 19, 2009 | Reply

    Pammy,

    “Oh what a joke” – Thats what I thought when I saw African Americans calling Africa a country (they can invade anytime they so wish) and espousing the Black Without Borders crap. It disgusts me to see a load of strangers thinking they can come here and spit on our diversity and have us open our borders to meet them halfway. Go to West Africa and have them open their borders.

51. john | Aug 19, 2009 | Reply

    Menzi or it’s Zew: Your incoherent rants are amusing, keep them coming pls.

52. African American | Aug 19, 2009 | Reply

    I welcome all Africans of the Diaspora and look forward to the next installment of “Blacks Without Borders” set for Nigeria.

53. Menzi | Aug 19, 2009 | Reply

    John

    I’m glad they are and will certainly make a point of keeping them coming including. Who said the CIA is only manned with white and Arab speaking agents?

    Our country is NOT a reparation for slavery, this is NOT Liberia 2, your behaviour told everybody who cared to observe it that thats what you thought. You had to be reminded and you were. Blacks Without Borders is happening in your heads.

54. Menzi | Aug 19, 2009 | Reply

    African American

    Thats what you should have done from the start instead of encouraging your relatives to steer to this part of the world.

    John

    If my “rants” were nothing more than that you’d have highlighted the incoherence. We know what we need and you don’t have that. What remains now is to take this matter forward to the relevant parties. We are not going to have EU and US citizens who’ve been hit hard by the global economic crisis flocking to our shores under the guise of doing charity work when they have charity cases in their own backyards.

55. Owi | Aug 19, 2009 | Reply

    Pammy was being sarcastic. She does that when she is biting her tongue.

56. Tony | Aug 19, 2009 | Reply

    It appears there is a lone ranger on this thread…Going by the rhetoric, I won’t be shocked if Menzi was among the lead of the mob that maimed and killed at the last xenophobic rage in South Africa.

    Let me give you some point of reference since it appears you gone off orbit!

    1. What is the beef with Nigeria? This post is about a documentary and not about Nigerians.
    2. The world is now a global village, so brace up when you discover your next door neighbor has a Mongolian-Kenyan-Hispanic ancestry.
    3. You need not be paranoid of African Americans – or non-South Africans for that matter, they don’t bite and won’t steal your jobs.
    4. Please go get some education and read some history books; you are disgracing your home-country, and the whole of black race, spewing this kind of rubbish on this great site.
    5. Reach out and meet a real “stranger” today and get some conversation going…you never know what you would discover.
    6. And finally, please, please stop the rants, don’t monopolize the thread, you have made your point! Let others appreciate the beauty there is in this world, because it’s isn’t as bleak and dark as you have tried to paint it! Take a walk, chill my dear!
    NOTE: And if any of these won’t work for you, use that energy to start a website and load it with all your bottled hatred. Feel free to leave!

57. Omotaylor | Aug 19, 2009 | Reply

    Say it out, loud and clear Tony…

58. Omotaylor | Aug 19, 2009 | Reply

    Menzie please dont stop the rants for I am well and truly enjoying this lone man who wants to take up everyone on planet earth. Wonder why no one is supporting you? Charles Taylor is a Taylor, Omotaylor is a Taylor, and may other
    Taylors abound and I dont mind this at all.

    There is definitely madness in reason as it applies to the one and only MENZIE. Kudos

59. Menzi | Aug 20, 2009 | Reply

    OnoTaylor

    I don’t need support on the internet, more so outside of the internet as I am supporting those who came before me and theres MANY of them, they saw African Americans for what they really are. Not to mention the scums of the continent, the Nigerians. No South African in his or her right mind wants to be your spokesperson, I have quit asking what makes you think you are qualified to be ours. We can’t appoint weakminds like you for spokespersons, if you were not weakminded you would be in your cesspool fixing it and not squatting in foreign countries.

60. Menzi | Aug 20, 2009 | Reply

    I see Nigerian scammers are coming out in full force, it did not take much to get them out of their caves, I’ve always maintained that you could NEVER beat me, I am way ahead of you boys, you are amateurs to me, you will need BRAINS and not just textbook brains to beat someone like me. Nigeria is a write off that is why you are using South Africa to scam your unsuspecting African American relatives.

61. Menzi | Aug 20, 2009 | Reply

    Tony,

    “It appears there is a lone ranger on this thread…Going by the rhetoric, I won’t be shocked if Menzi was among the lead of the mob that maimed and killed at the last xenophobic rage in South Africa.”

    Menzi – Nigerians are the last people to talk about xenophobia, in the 80s you drove more than 3 million foreigners out of your country which you never thought will soon be a shithole. “Ghana Must Go”, does that ring a bell? To this day there is bad blood between Nigerians and Ghanains because of that.

    Menzi – And what is wrong with that, what is xenophobic about driving out illegal immigrants who have no business being in our country and who have nothing to offer and who, like many of you Nigerians, are dependent on committing crime against South Africans to put bread on the tables. We are not going to be held hostage by foreigners in our country and will not rest until we drive you out. You are foreigners and must go back home or die here, that is the message…! Never mind last year, tell me about what happened in the last 24 hours. We are not going to give up on our country and give in to foreigners…!

    “What is the beef with Nigeria? This post is about a documentary and not about Nigerians.”

    Menzi – Who gave Nigerians the mandate to post videos about SA, don’t you have a country to post videos on? And, do you expect me to keep quiet while you pass yourselves on as South Africans, no South African passes himself on as a Nigerian and the reason for that is that we are not cheap and would not stoop that low even if we were to be cheap.

    “The world is now a global village, so brace up when you discover your next door neighbor has a Mongolian-Kenyan-Hispanic ancestry.

    Menzi – And African Americans do not have South African ancestry as we did not sell slaves or enslave anybody because we are NOT weakminded and don’t need Nigerians in our country.

    “You need not be paranoid of African Americans – or non-South Africans for that matter, they don’t bite and won’t steal your jobs.”

    Menzi – That is typical Nigerian weakmindedness, it beats why many think you people are intelligent when you are obviously born with serious learning disabilities. Nigerians are sex slaves who use cheap pussy to stay in countries they live in, they must take their sex slavery elsewhere. African Americans have no business being here on the ticket of coming home because this is not their home, Nigeria is, also we don’t need the charity they are hiding behind, Nigeria does, so if they have time and space to do charity work they must take it to the countries they originate from, we are not dependent on charity and aid. Some claim to be investors which is not true. Of course I am concerned about jobs because no foreigner is suppose to get a job in SA when SA are there looking for jobs in their country. If you don’t bite and don’t steal jobs WHY ARE YOU ALL HERE, WHY ARE YOU FLOCKING TO OUR COUNTRY? We are on your case and will not rest until we are done with Nigerians, this is the battle you are not going to win. You don’t take jobs because you DO NOT have skills, you are committing crime and you expect us to thank you for that…!? It’s a myth that (all of) you people have skills. Take your drug trafficking and (male and female) prostitution elsewhere. This country needs a unit that is going to focus on digging out the likes of you and throw them out of our country.

62. Menzi | Aug 20, 2009 | Reply

    Why don’t these Nigerians put their dirty money where their mouth is and post videos about Nigeria and say what the hellhole has to offer and watch the world laughing at them. Are there any African Americans in Nigeria? Your (Nigerians) preoccupation with SA is proof that you don’t know where to start to “market” your country. Just as you are imposing yourselves on us we are looking at Angola because you proved to be nothing but a waste of time. If you don’t put your money where your mouth is Zimbabwe will rise fomr the ashes and beat you at it.

    You are amongst those who’d waited 15 years for us to give you civil war and destroy our country to the shithole yours is. I’m one of those who knew that all along but many South Africans got to be aware of that when the ANC split and the ex president was recalled, they were left dumbstruck and are still speechless by the questions many foreigners are asking (including your government officials who came here during and after elections) around the fact that nothing happened after the ex president was recalled, it was business as usual. Even senior members of the AU were left speechless by the maturity and developments in SA. Managing a democracy is hard work and unfortunately it is contagious, you’ll have to fight and work hard to put your countries on the right path, if you can and if you are willing, squatting in foreign countries is not going to help you.

    Give up the wait and start working on pulling Nigeria out of the quagmire and make it the force its suppose to be, Nigeria is sinking, you are yet to diversity your economy and all you can do is to tell me about history in your attempts to scam your African American relatives. Due to the conflict in the Delta State, for the past 2 years your oil output has been 30% below capacity, the conflict has put a 2 year delay on the development of the gas pipeline that runs from Gabon to Senegal, and all you can do is to sit and talk about SA, a country whose people are up in arms forcing their government to deliver on its constitutional mandate. Why can’t you do the same? Have you ran out of issues to deal with? I don’t think so. We are not giving you civil war and are not opening our borders to accomodate you and your population which has ballooned to 140 million. 15 years was/is a long wait, go home to fight your battles, change the regime and build your countries. You have no place and no future in SA, you’ll always be foreigners here the way you are in the US, EU and elsewhere.

    Your uselessness is exposed.

63. pammy | Aug 20, 2009 | Reply

    Oh my gosh – this is so funny!! LOL!! What a joke!
    Honestly: the average Nigerian does not give a rats ass what the world thinks about them – why do you think the Nigerian community continues to survive and achieve in all areas of life including criminality regardless of where you put them. I could put up a lot of achievement stats of Nigerians in the diaspora but that will be completely wasted on you. Let me put this here once and for all- Nigerians are doing TOO well. Now, if you want to use a small percentage of a huge population of people to mark all Nigerians that is your prerogative…we don’t give a damn. After-all, it is a South African that is saying so and trust me your stats in terms of robbery, violence, murders and rape in the world isn’t the greatest. I was amazed that you could actually bring up sex when the average South African woman has either been involved in sexual violence or is a single mother or might be HIV positive. Did you also bring up some of the not so good jobs that some Nigerians are doing in the Diasporas as an example…lol at least they are working and most of them are using that small amount of money to take care of their families and go back to school to get out of where whatever societies has placed them..can that be said of the south African in the Diasporas? I think on average most of the nannies and housekeepers brought into the Diasporas are from South Africa the last I checked. At least those are the ones strutting all over Manhattan. So let’s not pretend that your shit don’t stink. I really honestly don’t understand what the fascination with South Africa is apart from the fact that you guys came out of apartheid with a lot of emotional and mental issues – there are more beautiful and RICHER parts in Africa but the media chooses to focus on you guys and honestly I have always felt that that was complete bullshit. South Africa is the last country on earth that I will like to visit. Most people know that. I prefer two other Southern African countries. Doesn’t mean that the South African is bad. No, there are some informed ones and I have met some great ones but so far…I have not seen anything about South Africa that will make me say oh my goodness I want to so visit that place. Sorry. I hope that makes your day. I remember a friend (non African) of mine whose opinion I value went to South Africa for some research and her comment was beautiful country, SOME working facilities, people are lacking. No warmth!!! Maybe she was right?

    A country that can kill, burn and rape people because they are foreigners in your country is a country that I have absolutely no respect for. Sorry, there was and still no excuse for that. I could not look a South African in the face after that bull crap and the fact that the media refused to really cover those issues made me want to puke further.

    Besides that, you did bring up a relevant point – at least 90 percent of African Americans can trace their roots to West Africa. I never understood why Oprah knowing fully well that her roots state that she is Mende from sierria leonne will set up that institution in South Africa but it is her choice and her money. You are right, if African Americans are really trying to connect to their roots, they should connect to their roots (WEST AFRICA) but if they are relocating because of economic opportunities – they have the freedom to go wherever the hell they want to go to.

    Menzi, please go ahead and insult me. See if I care…..lol!!! I repeat what a frigging joke!!

64. Menzi | Aug 20, 2009 | Reply

    Tony,

    “Please go get some education and read some history books; you are disgracing your home-country, and the whole of black race, spewing this kind of rubbish on this great site.”

    Menzi – I have no need to read history books, unlike you I see no value in being a walking textbook (you are walking textbooks who cannot use that education to develop their country). What is important is that I know my history well and that it doesn’t involve slavery, I repeat for the umpteenth time, UNLIKE YOU NIGERIANS WHO SAW SLAVE TRADE AS A LUCRATIVE BUSINESS, WE HAVE NO HISTORY OF SLAVERY. I don’t need descendants of slave traders or those of slaves to tell me that. I am a disgrace to the black race – hahahaha, that is rich coming from a Nigerian, sex slaves of note who are not wanted in any country in the world. If there was anything important in the history you recommend I read you would have spelt it out, but like a limited Nigerian you fell short.

    Menzi – What does your history inform you, does it inform you that you have no history of slave trade or that like yours, our forefathers too traded in slaves?. It does look like you are ALL shocked to learn that South Africa does not have a history of slavery, it would have been a relief for many of you to see us in your camp of slave traders. And your African American cousins would have good reasons to justify their obsession with our country and to make a valid claim about their right to be here, unfortunately any slave related claim is INvalid and they have no divine right to be here, they are like any other foreigner who has to meet certain requirements to come / live here, which means their applications can and they do get rejected, that does not happen to someone who has a right to be in a given country. For your information and that of your African American cousins, SA is not the only country that was not affected by slavery, Namibia and Zimbabwe don’t, never heard anything about Botswana chances are they don’t, if SA doesn’t so do Swaziland and Lesotho. Your obsession with SA is not appreciated, it is disgusting to say the least.

    Menzi – I cannot be a disgrace to my home country because there are many who share my views, in fact, a lot of stuff I know is information transferred to me by those who came before me, it is oral history. If I am a disgrace to my home country why has no one come out to challenge what I’ve said. I’ll tell you why, it is because millions of South Africans agree with me, my stance was not shaped by some books or politicians, but by ordinary South Africans some of whom have put the theory into practice. I have my own way of doing that. Disgrace to the black race is the least of my problems, to me the disgrace are those blacks who benefitted from apartheid, who sucked the blood and sweat of black SA, go and check what relationship Nigeria had with the apartheid government. The disgrace to the black race are Nigerians who are opening their asses to the white men and licking white women while their husbands watch, it’s the African Americans, Nigerians and others whose definition of freedom includes breeding with whites or anybody who is NOT black. That is a clear sign of racial inferiority, who doesn’t know that Nigerians worship a white man?

    “5. Reach out and meet a real “stranger” today and get some conversation going…you never know what you would discover.”

    Menzi – I and WE don’t need anything from Nigerians so keep your suggestion for those who need it, we have a business to deal with and that involves driving Nigerians, unwanted scums, out of our country, you are the most undesirable creatures in the world.

    “6. And finally, please, please stop the rants, don’t monopolize the thread, you have made your point! Let others appreciate the beauty there is in this world”

    Menzi – I have already done that by reaching out to you and hitting you with the truth. SA is not a bridge between yourselves and your African American relatives who are obviously NOT interested in having anything to do with you. I am yet to read anything from them mentioning you, I’ve seen cases where they mention Ghana and Senegal but NOT Nigeria, and you think SA will take the place of Nigeria, until such time that the likes of Nigeria put their countries on the right path, SA will continue to be a misrepresentation of Africa.

    “because it’s isn’t as bleak and dark as you have tried to paint it!”

    Menzi – There is nothing bleak about SA so there’s no point for me to paint ableak picture about my country. I am only telling it like it is. Wake up and smell the coffee, we are moving on and have established relations outside of the continent while you are obsessing with our country and appreciating the toilet paper we have introduced you to. I hope Angola will prove to be a better, responsible and more productive partner on the continent.

    Nigerians who want to scam African Americans must do so without involving our country. Known criminals cannot change the facts and the truth about themselves.

65. Menzi | Aug 20, 2009 | Reply

    Pammy,

    Hahahaha… it did not take much for this lone ranger to get Nigerians to shed their sheep skins and come out clean if they know the meaning of the word. Grime is your best friend, where a NIgerian is crime and grime are sure to follow. I told you people you cannot beat me, not in million years, only fools get tricked by Nigerians. I knew from the onset this is about Nigerians and their attempts to get into the wallets of African Americans. Do that without SA.

    Don’t flatter yourself Nigerians have achieved nothing compared to everyone else, you talk as if you have made a discovery when all you are doing is to take refuge in foreign countries and work like any other person. Nigerians are yet to be free, your so called freedom turned out to be a set up, the British tricked you but obviosuly due to your shortsightedness and your learning disabilities you couldn’t see that. Your false freedom is the reason in 2009 you are celebrating 10 years of “democracy”, after 49 years of so called freedom / independence and thats is why you are held hostage by a rebel group you cannot handle.

    Nigerians in the diaspora have done nothing but do what Nigerians do best, commit crime and get thrown in jail / executed OR absorb textbooks and walk around with that in their heads.

    Envy is a sickness of the mind which is the reason you’ve stood by and watched us move on with our lives and hoping that we’ll deliver the civil war you have been waiting for. One wonders what made you think we are anything like you. We got out of apartheid, you are yet to get out of anything. 49 years of false freedom / independence, did you really think the British would hand you that on a silver platter.? You are the fools I have always believed you are if you think so. We don’t need you to move forward.

    For the past 3 or more years Nigeria has been facing food shortage and the situation is not getting better. After 49 years you are yet to diversify your economy which is heavily dependent on oil and less / nothing else, 60% of your workforce are peasants in the agro sector but its only now that you are talking agricultural development, you are yet to produce black commercial farmers all you are producing are criminals and sex slaves who are trafficked to different destinations, you have the Afrikaaners from SA working your land and feeding starving Nigerians, you import substandard diesel from SA (diesel which by SA law, cannot be distributed on the market), your oild output is sitting at 70%, your government officials continue to plunder the country and Nigerians are helpless, instead desperation is driving them to crime and prostitution in foreign countries and you dare call that an achievement…!? The world must wake up these are nothing but demons…!

    Your health system is in shambles so much that your corrupt elite go to Europe and US for medical care, and your president to Saudi Arabia, proof that he has no confidence in the system he is head of. This leaves poor Nigerians at the mercy of Doctors Without Borders and the UN and that is suppose to be an achievement. Many Nigerians in foreign countries use their genitalia to stay in those countries, is that what you call achievement? I refuse to acknowledge Nigerians as the diaspora.

    Britain has asked Nigeria to identify a piece of land on which they (the British) are going building a prison to transfer Nigerians criminals who are overcrowding British prisons, the last time I checked the FBI had a unit that is there to deal with everything Nigerian and Nigeria was/is the only such country. Is that what you call achievement? You have your 12 year olds swallowing drugs and traffiking them while their fathers linger in jail, thats Nigerian achievements, congratulations. I am one of many SA who don’t need to use my genitalia to stay in a foreign country to achieve what you have achieved.

66. Menzi | Aug 20, 2009 | Reply

    Pammy,

    Human trafficking is one of Nigeria’s achievements, you are leading the pack in that regard. Press freedom in Nigeria is theoretical, rapes and crime are misrepresented, so is AIDS stats (if you do have testing centres), in UK Nigerians are known for trafficking poor Nigerian children and slaughtering them for your filthy rituals, your yellow satanic eyes are not helping and tell a lot about your filth. Your country is an a state of mess and your helplessness is exposed, you are all big mouth and no action.

    Nigeria belongs to the corrupt elite and politicians, your displacement is prrof that you have no place under the Nigerian sun, Nigerians are dying like dogs carrying false foreign passports which means they’re never identified, and they get buried in pauper’s graves in those countries, not that they deserve better, and you call that an achievement, hahaha…

67. Menzi | Aug 20, 2009 | Reply

    No South African wants to live in Nigeria, those who are there are paid a lot by their employers to move to your hellhole to manage their operations there. In June 2009 Richard Branson of Virgin Airline pulled out of the deal he had with Nigerian Airways or whatever they call it, and did so with immediate effect, citing CORRUPTION as the main reason, the investors who’ve pulled out of SA post 1994 did so because they could not compete, who has a problem here…!? Who wants to lose investors in this time of global economic crisis…!? Anyway we are not in competition with Nigeria, Nigeria is bleeding profusely to compete with any country, which is sad given its potential. The country has reached a point of no return, something drastic and dramatic MUST happen for it to move forward, regime change is the only solution, everybody in that cabinet must go.

    allAfrica.com: Nigeria: Salvaging a Bleeding Country:
    allafrica.com/stories/200908031179.html

    allAfrica.com: Nigeria: We’re Bleeding, Says PPMC:
    allafrica.com/stories/200904240631.html

    Pammy – Your country needs those Nigerians you say have achieved this and that in foreign countries. Your arrongance is better directed at your politicians and the corrupt elite.

68. Menzi | Aug 20, 2009 | Reply

    Typo – ‘Managing a democracy is hard work and unfortunately it is NOT contagious’.

69. Menzi | Aug 20, 2009 | Reply

    Nigerians – WHY ARE YOU IN SOUTH AFRICA? This is the question even our ministers are asking the foreigners who are flocking into our shores, and the one you are going to have to answer because you cannot just come here for no reason. If Zimbabwe and Botswana can keep you out of their countries so can and should everybody.

70. Owi | Aug 20, 2009 | Reply

    By the way Sex trafficking occurs everywhere including South Africa with South Africans.

71. Menzi | Aug 20, 2009 | Reply

    Owi

    That is not true and you know it. Don’t sugarcoat human trafficking and your sex slavery in South Africa. If there are South Africans who are trafficked for anything it is those cheap sluts who associate themselves with Nigerians and I, like many South Africans, say GOOD RIDDANCE when they die in the line of their duty.

    I asked you Nigerian scums why are you in South Africa?

72. Omotaylor | Aug 20, 2009 | Reply

    Menzie I thought the ones youve been ranting at are living in the Diaspora, so which ones are in South Africa? I was enjoying your diatribe but believe its now a “swine” song to me. Astalavista.

73. Omotaylor | Aug 20, 2009 | Reply

    So sorry, “swan song” it is to me, or maybe both.

74. CareTaker | Aug 20, 2009 | Reply

    To Menzi: “I asked you Nigerian scums why are you in South Africa?”

    With this statement you have earned your long deserved exit from AfricanLoft. Enough of your rants! Goodbye!

75. Daniel Muhammad | Aug 29, 2009 | Reply

    I have always deeply believe in my people and will always do so, looking for excellent products and services from my people to sponsor.

76. African American | Sep 3, 2009 | Reply

    Poor Menzi! I kind of feel sorry for him. Something was bothering him, and I wanted to know where the hurt was coming from. Menzi, if you’re reading this I want you to know “someone loves you”. Please be blessed brother! Lol!

77. Omotaylor | Sep 4, 2009 | Reply

    @African American, even if deeply bothered, no one has the right to rant obscenities at everyone and even a whole country. For this Menzie did deserve the exit sign. Hope he doesnt ressurect as with another name (amen).

78. Wakesho Mwakio | Sep 15, 2009 | Reply

    I am a Kenyan in N.America and 500 years after the Slave trade, it pains me to see Black people discriminated and relying only Laws to protect them. No one can protect us from attitudes though. I am really excited that more Black people are moving to Africa. Let them come and invest! And live with us!! I get disturbed by the overcrowding and poverty in Haiti and I wish I had the powers to move some of the people into the French speaking countries of Africa. They are all our people.

79. Empress | Dec 19, 2009 | Reply

    This was very interesting.

    I’m Ethiopian born living in Canada. I would hate for a fellow African to say the things you’re saying to me Menzi. If they want to help and contribute with good intentions why can’t they?

    I understand what you’re saying about borders and immigration but I’m sure most of them do too, c’mon Americans are all about that.

80. AfricanAmerican | Dec 20, 2009 | Reply

    @Wakesho, they already have. Raoul Peck, the director of Lumumba was a Haitian born director who as a child never forgot the hospitality of Lumumba who welcomed all Africans of the Diaspora to live in the Congo. Haiti has a few Sierre Leone African immigrants.

81. Packman | Dec 24, 2009 | Reply

    CareTaker or whoever is moderating comments on this website should please as a matter of fact delete all this Menzi comments because they undermined the beauty of the video clip you guys put up on this website. This avenue should only be for people that can see, reason and associate themselves with others irrespective of race, tribe or language; not the likes of Menzis that think South Africa is on another planet!.

82. JOHNNIE \ | Dec 26, 2009 | Reply

    Everyone
    Menzi, is a minstrel man, White man in Black face! My brothers and sisters it is foolish to continue responding to
    this Fool. That’s what he wants. He has nothing positive nor
    constructive to utter, because he’s a Fool! My Granddad taught me a long time ago that you can’t reason with a Fool!
    Why? Because a Fool has no reasoning powers, that’s why he’s a Fool! Ignore him, and he Dies! We have real stories to tell. Nuf said.

    JOHNNIE “BLUE” GARDNER

83. WBrown | Jan 18, 2010 | Reply

    Menzi sounds like a deranged xenophobe but he does have a point. No slaves came out of South Africa and the majoriy of africans don’t regard blacks from the US as african. After spending the last 7 years on this continent, working as a diplomat mind you, and not by chioce, all blacks who were born and raised in the US as Americans should thank their lucky stars that you did not come from here. I could rattle a laundry list of things that are wrong with Africa and africans but I won’t. I will simply say to those Africans Americans who for some inexlplicable reason have this compulsion to call themselves african: come to Africa, anywhere in Africa including South Africa, stay for a few years and then tell me if you still consider yourselves africans.

84. Lala | Jan 19, 2010 | Reply

    Johnnie,
    I must agree, we are among the most uninformed (so-called educated) people in the world. And I could extend that to say Americans in general. I am an African American who has retired to Senegal to do some writing. Please update me on your writing project, sounds interesting.

85. AfricanAmerican | Jan 20, 2010 | Reply

    WBrown,

    you sound like the American stereotype that Menzi was alluding too. What makes you think you speak for all African-Americans by stating that “majoriy of africans don’t regard blacks from the US as african”. That’s like some Africans stating that “many African-Americans are lazy and love to complain”. Please shut up with the stereotypes. You already stated that you spent seven years on the Continent working as a diplomat….”not by choice.” Let me guess! You wanted to work in Europe and have what the whites had so you could feel like you finally arrived, and you wanted their acceptance? Instead they sent you to Africa where you had to check yourself and do some introspection on self hatred (some African-Americans aren’t comfortable around people who are really, really darkskinned because it reminds them of their African roots, and some brothers and sisters can’t give up hair relaxers and will argue you to death that there’s nothing disturbing about them), return to your roots literally in terms of farming, fishing, hunting, etc. (we all know some Westerners and Americans who love their European comforts as in materialism and easy living with exploitation of labors but don’t know how to survive on their own by living with the land.)Or were you shocked and found it hard to accept that there were people who looked like you who were smarter than the white man that you subconsciously think is better? WTaylor, I suggest you get over whatever happened to you and really embrace your blackness.

86. JOHNNIE \\ | Jan 20, 2010 | Reply

    Lala
    Thanks for responding. I’m also thankful that you are interested in conversing about my writing Projects. I believe there is a basic reason and answer why we are witnessing all of these uneducated, uniformed commentaries,
    coming from those who sound like lunatics. Unfortunately,
    the World is full of uninformed people. That’s largely why the International Power Structure, stays intact, by keeping the people Stupid! Obviously it is why the ‘Continent’of
    Africa (Motherland)is so divided. That Misplaced Hate For Each Other, Sold Us Into Slavery! Do we see Europeans utterring anti-togetherness statements about each other? Hell To The No! WE MUST UNDERSTAND, that you can’t communi-
    cate with FOOLS, it is anti-progressive to waste time with them. WE MUST TRY TO REACH, those who are marginal, not knowing who or what to believe in. WE, can outnumber the Fools, which means we can move forward enlightened those who are willing to listen. Lala, if you’re serious regarding my writing projects, then we must communicate outside of this particular forum, as i believe you know. Send me a direct email that is separate from “Blacks With-
    out Borders.” I’ve attempted to communicate with a couple of people but didn’t receive a reply. I don’t like that makes me wonder about some things regarding this site.
    JOHNNIE “BLUE” GARDNER

87. JOHNNIE \\ | Jan 20, 2010 | Reply

    I’m authorizing “Blacks Without Borders” to allow Lala, and
    only Lala, my email address!
    JOHNNIE “BLUE” GARDNER

88. Omotaylor | Jan 22, 2010 | Reply

    @ AfricanAmerican “embrace your blackness” – a good call. Be black and proud.

    @lala – “that makes me wonder about some things regarding this site” Please elucidate, so if wrong, amendments could be made. World is filled with people with ‘different strokes’ and all should be allowed to express themselves. We can then choose what to follow on and after ‘doing your best we leave the rest’.

    Be blessed all.

89. Seeking SA | Feb 2, 2010 | Reply

    I saw this documentary in July 2009. I was so inspired, I am trying to do some kind of business in SA. My husband has a start up IT business and I was thinking of setting up wine tours for SA. My family wants to move but we dont have the capital. I heard over and over if you want to start a business in SA you have to have your own capital. But Im not going to let that deter me. I am going to get there!
    I truely believe that SA is going to boom after the World Cup. Just like Atlanta did after the Olympics. Thats why Im trying to get there soon.

90. desiree | Jul 15, 2010 | Reply

    I am a PROUDLY South African and i cannot help but be honoured that finally Africa is seen on another angle, for a number of years we in Africa have been consired people from the Dark Continent. I am talking about South Africa because i have never been anywhere else it is such a beautiful country no way to describe it except you have to come and feel it. During the World Cup a lot of visitors where shocked, those that i interacted with could not bealieve, the infastracture, scenery we have everything. i don`t see myself anywhere else but here.

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